published 2011, avg rating 4.41 — The romance is only sub-plot, right? published 2005, avg rating 4.27 — Refresh and try again. The Demon King - no idea either, but from the book description I am pretty sure that romance exist. Do you have any books to recommend for me? I am serching for a good High Fantasy book with a romance sub-plot in it. 88,091 ratings — Elizabeth Haydon’s ‘The Symphony of Ages’ has a sub-plot around romance, as well as an overarching “saving the world” main plot. published 2019, avg rating 4.11 — Favorites: All of the Shadowhunters by Cassandra Clare: here we have a bigger focus on romance than in some of my other choices, but the demons and badass Shadowhunters are the main plot. published 2012, avg rating 3.99 — Brooks, a prolific and imaginative writer, and author of Justi the Gifted. There are romance novels, and then there are non-romance novels. 4,506 ratings — 709,445 ratings — 195,131 ratings — published 2013, avg rating 4.19 — Today’s topic is all about romance subplots and I feel like I’m going to have a lot to say about this one! Thanks foe the anwser! published 2007, avg rating 4.27 — Here's a great article by Mette Ivie Harrison: How To Write Romance (in Fantasy), published in OSC's Intergalactic Medicine Show.I think it's particularly appropriate to your question because it focuses on romances as subplots, romance combined with other elements. If I can ask, does any of these books (or other if you know of something like that) have something like: main character is going on his adventure with another person or meets another character and they fall together slowly in love? I do agree that a book doesn’t need romance to be good, but I still like to read about romances in one form or another. I mean there are fantasy books were romance is the main thing, but those are not my thing. published 2016, avg rating 4.35 — published 2018, avg rating 4.37 — He’s a great author but he likes to use romance to further the plot instead of just being romantic so his romance tend to be a little cut and dry. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In Fantasy or Thriller books, I feel like romance is mostly pushed onto your face because well, as you said it’s something we can relate too and when it’s well-done, it’s great, but in non-romance … Two books that I absolutely adore for their romantic subplots among other things, are Burning Bright (Melissa McShane) and The Scorpio Races (Maggie Stiefvater). Not something I'd say is believable though. Let’s Talk Bookish is a weekly meme, hosted by Rukky @Eternity Books & Dani @ Literary Lion, where we get to discuss certain topics, share our opinions, and spread the love by visiting each other’s posts!I’ve listed the upcoming topics in brief at the end of my post, but check out these pages for more information on November 2020 prompts & a list of past prompts! 34,931 ratings — Kingdoms and countries are at stake, usually. By romance sub-plot I mean something like main character is falling in love with someone else but the main plot (saving the world or something else) is still there. Most of the books I read have at least a hint of romance, but I was actually surprised I read a few books without romance and quite some with only a hint of romance last year. The Riyria Revelations by Michael Sullivan - Romance is almost nonexistent in the early books, although it starts to seep into the story subtlety, and by the end it's a major subplot (at least for one of the protagonists). + a lot of books from this post but from this many I can't decide what is worth reading. Personally, I prefer books that have just a little bit of romance mixed in with the rest of the story. So, I have my MC and her love interest. I don't care for fantasy clichés at all, and I really don't want to have a bad ending (I have no problem with killing but when the main character dies on the last pages I don't like it). /r/Fantasy is the internet's largest discussion forum for the greater Speculative Fiction genre. Looking for YA books without romance is like looking for Christmas cards on Valentine’s Day. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. published 2019, avg rating 4.29 — 6,555,575 ratings — The latter has the better romantic subplot imho, but both are very much worth reading. 286,120 ratings — Fantasy books all contain some element of the unnatural, i.e., magic. Good job finding ALL of these. I think romance subplots need to strike the right balance. 2,310 ratings — published 2013, avg rating 4.04 — Hi! Any … Someone else has already recommended Bujold's Curse of Chalion and by extension Paladin of Souls to you. published 2009, avg rating 4.31 — 10,768 ratings — If you're into secret identity, infiltration-type shenanigans, it's great though. It absolutely fits with what you’re looking for, it’s the first fantasy romantic subplot with a male POV that I actually find appealing as a guy. Epic Fantasy Romance can also get lumped with Young Adult Fantasy Romance, and although some of these do span genres, many aren’t actually Epic Fantasy Romance. It depends how subtle you want your romance. It can allow Fantasy writers to make their books more character-driven. It’s basically a fantasy plot generator in list form! Some people enjoy both and some enjoy one or the other. published 2009, avg rating 4.13 — published 2015, avg rating 4.42 — 124,554 ratings — Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. The romance subplot is fairly light in the first book but continues to grow as the series goes on. published 2015, avg rating 4.26 — 16,034 ratings — Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Stabby Winner, Queen of the Unholy Squares, Worldbuilders. This was confusing as I am both male and heterosexual. In addition, many of Bujold's Vorkosigan saga books (I'm currently in the middle of those) have romantic subplots next to the save the world/empire/galaxy main plots, if you don't mind sci fi for a setting. We welcome respectful dialogue related to speculative fiction in literature, games, film, and the wider world. Personally, I loved the romance in Mistborn, especially in The Final Empire. This might be a controversial take (I have no idea, because I feel like romance gets a bad wrap sometimes? published 2013, avg rating 4.13 — I'm always fond of a decent romance storyline in all the fantasy stuff I've read. published 2009, avg rating 4.63 — If era 1 mistborn romance would have me roll my eyes sometimes, era 2 romance just switch between cute and hilarious. 92,167 ratings — This post was originally titled, "Master List of Romantic Conflicts,"… 164,879 ratings — published 2012, avg rating 3.68 — I’ve included historical fiction, as well, which is where one can find books with little or no romance most easily. Brooks. Magic Bitter Magic Sweet by Charlie N. Holmberg is a great fantasy book with great romance. The Wicked King book. Thanks for the long answer! I prefer fantasy/sci-fi books, so I think it is better as a subplot. I recently read trilogy of 'Summoner' and I am looking for something similar. I feel there wasn't enough time to develop it, but then, it's probably because of the circumstances the MCs are forced into. published 2012, avg rating 3.77 — Outside of Tigana and Fionnovar the rest of his works tend to be alternate history with a fantasy twist as opposed to high fantasy. The Romance Subplot in Fantasy by R.R. Other books are pure adventure stories, science fiction romps, constructed entirely in fantasy worlds, or spine-tingling thriller or horror reads. Best possible combination is, of course YA fantasy because there is ALWAYS romance as a subplot. published 2008, avg rating 4.27 — I haven't read a bad book by him yet. 2,999,189 ratings — - What are the other books worth reading for me? Let’s Talk Bookish is a weekly meme hosted by Rukky @ Eternity Books and Dani @ Literary Lion. Most here would likely recommend reading Tigana or Lions of Al Rassan first. They can add to the… published 2018, avg rating 4.06 — Sequel series to The Demon King? published 2014, avg rating 4.03 — 125,686 ratings — Both major protagonists are male, although there are certainly other points of view, including the lead female. 527,336 ratings — 351,373 ratings — My most recent fling with a love triangle of epic proportions is The Raven Cycle, Maggie Stiefvater’s modern paranormal fantasy series.This is another slow burn love triangle, stretched over several books with only small drops of concentrated romance … 162,015 ratings — I guess that really depends on your reading taste!? To plot a subplot, repeat the same steps as for the main plot, except that the subplot will be simpler, with fewer steps between the conflict and resolution. These books tend to get confused with, and put in the same category as, other types of fantasy romance: alternative history, vampire, werewolf or shifter paranormals. (If you do care about Happy Endings, don’t read the sequel series to The Demon King. Burning Bright is about using fire magic to fight pirates and societal expectations and Scorpio Races is about flesh-eating water horse racing. Some end well and some don't. I’m not a fan of romance as subplots expect for two exceptions. I don't know why, but a lot of Bujold's fantasy series is available on audible for free if you subscribe to the Romance package. Romance can also add a lighter element to your story – for although you might make… 1,998 ratings — The Demon King by Cinda Williams China is exactly what you are looking for. 256,254 ratings — 131,404 ratings — published 2018, avg rating 4.35 — 298,581 ratings — published 2012, avg rating 4.20 — But it is definitely high fantasy with Arthurian overtones and I personally love it. 337,996 ratings — avg rating 4.33 — And there are certain conventions in a story that is a genre romance. But beware that if I’m remembering correctly the romance doesn’t really get going until the second half of the 2nd book. published 2015, avg rating 3.99 — ), but I fucking love romance. Romance as a subplot was the topic for Let’s Talk Bookish this week. published 2012, avg rating 4.02 — So I would say romance is better as a subplot! I can see at least two books in there that while I’ve not read them, from spoilers I’m quite sure the romance is tragic/depressing. Well of Ascension gets a bit tedious in that aspect though, and all in all, I know that many people didn't warm up to the characters all that much. published 1975, avg rating 4.32 — 17,930 ratings — “Well, you’ve got three choices,” she answered. Guy Kay without a doubt is one of the best romantic fantasy writers out there. I was coming here to recommend it based just on your post title. 3,680,387 ratings — A subplot lets you comment on a side issue, show a contrasting point of view, raise the stakes in the main plot, deepen characterization through variety or contrast, provide plot twists, etc. ), but I fucking love romance. 93,076 ratings — Let’s Talk Bookish is a weekly discussion post hosted by Rukky @ Eternity Books where each week there is a topic, and you write a post about that topic! Neither one have save-the-world plots, but there is definitely more going on than just the romance. The Riyria Revelations is a fairly classic 6 book series (now mostly published as 3 books), and certainly has a romance subplot by the end of the series, but I think it's something like half way through book 5 that it starts to kick in. published 2008, avg rating 4.37 — 2,597,277 ratings — Robin Hobb can write. 635,296 ratings — In the former, the romance is the main plot arc of the story. I've been getting into science fiction stories lately and was wondering if I could get some suggestions for books with interesting romance. Seriously, you can’t take two steps in Westeros without stumbling on someone’s ill-fated love affair. 75,144 ratings — published 2020, avg rating 4.16 — I second Kushiel's Dart - while love, sex and romance have big roles in the tone and worldbuilding, the plot itself is epic. There are 4 books, what should I not read? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. published 2014, avg rating 4.22 — A subplot (such as their studious preparation for a crucial test) might show that they have the resolve and the focus to achieve their goals, and the smarts, too. I think that The Codex Alera by Jim Butcher should fit what you’re looking for pretty well. Romance as a Subplot. Mistborn Era 2's romance is downright adorable though. 365,115 ratings — I’m not sure what about it automatically elevates a story for me, but, if I’m reading a fantasy or sci-fi novel that isn’t marketed as a romance and then I discover there is a romance? 1,895,241 ratings — This is a list of Science fiction/ Fantasy romance adventure books deemed to have strong plots based on character development, world building, writing style and captivation of the story. I imagined them as long story ideas, but you might find inspiration for a short story, too. Mistborn & Lightbringer - no idea if romance exist in these series, but I have heard that they are good. Given your interest in high fantasy I would go with Tigana. It can make the central conflict more intense, raise the stakes, and allow the readers to see your main characters as fully rounded characters. I have done some research, but I don't know if the books that I found are that I was looking for: Warbreaker - only 1 book, I don't like short stories :/. God damn right. published 2019, avg rating 4.41 — published 2011, avg rating 4.31 — As for whether you should try out the books in the thread you linked, it depends on whether you care if your romance ends with a happily ever after. Many of these books do just that. I haven't read enough books to recommend anything good, but I can tell you that the romance in Mistborn Era 1 is... good. Mistborn is a bit more romantic in "Era 2" but there is some in Era 1. His first work is a series - The Fionnovar Tapestry. published 2017, The Wicked King (The Folk of the Air, #2), Shadow and Bone (The Shadow and Bone Trilogy, #1), The Queen of Nothing (The Folk of the Air, #3), The Cruel Prince (The Folk of the Air, #1), Blue Lily, Lily Blue (The Raven Cycle, #3), A Court of Thorns and Roses (A Court of Thorns and Roses, #1), The Pirate's Wish (The Assassin's Curse, #2), The Assassin's Curse (The Assassin's Curse, #1), The Name of the Wind (The Kingkiller Chronicle, #1), An Ember in the Ashes (An Ember in the Ashes, #1), First Grave on the Right (Charley Davidson, #1), More Than We Can Tell (Letters to the Lost, #2), The Republic of Thieves (Gentleman Bastard, #3), Hunting Prince Dracula (Stalking Jack the Ripper, #2). 283,327 ratings — Midway through the Liveship traders I realized I had fallen in love with Kennit. 96,556 ratings — Most of these are epic fantasy writing prompts, but depending on how you handle them, some of them could be used for paranormal romance, urban fantasy, or dark fantasy story ideas as well. That said, if you are more interested in romance than the big plot, Brandon Sanderson isn’t your guy. I don’t mind romance in books, but it HAS to be a subplot. And yes, I care about happy ending. published 2006, avg rating 4.39 — published 2008, avg rating 4.26 — The difference between a romance set in a fantasy world and a fantasy world with a romance is one of emphasis. You could try the realm of the elderlings series. 71,856 ratings — I also want to second the recommendation for The Demon King. 2,416,271 ratings — 217,863 ratings — published 2015, avg rating 3.85 — 76,666 ratings — 324,079 ratings — Black Widow is damaged by the need to downplay her character’s best qualities in order to downplay a romance, Bruce Banner is forced to engage in uncomfortable flirting sequences, and the movie itself must now bear the weight of a hefty romantic subplot while also trying to juggle quite a few more important stories. Her Paper Magician Series is also pretty great. published 2021, avg rating 4.22 — One is a prince who is a fugitive of his kingdom, the other a street urchin who has a scarred past. published 2007, avg rating 4.07 — It depends how subtle you want your romance. published 2013, avg rating 4.35 — published 2009, avg rating 4.28 — The other trilogies are great, but if you want the full experience you should read all the books from the series and they are quite a few. published 2007, avg rating 4.26 — Romance as a subplot. Thanks! 149,652 ratings — There is a BUT. The Essential Romantic Subplot (Game of Thrones) Game of Thrones is a grimdark fantasy series that has a dozen romantic subplots. If it’s all about the romance, I’m not interested. Romance adds emotional depth. The Kingkiller Chronicle - I don't really want to start now because the third book is not out yet. The best way to learn how to use a romance arc in your story is to look at books and films where the arc works, and see if you can map out the path the writers took to create tension and conflict and how they tied this in to the rest of the story. published 2008, avg rating 4.07 — Error rating book. On this list of romance writing prompts, I've tried to include ideas that could work for paranormal romance, fantasy, young adult, romantic suspense, contemporary romance, and more. The Write Way Café welcomes R.R. 40+ Paranormal Romance Books with Bite If you think about it, “paranormal” and “romance” really go hand in hand: both involve concepts beyond the realm of pure scientific explanation. Is romance better as a subplot or as a main plot? $2.99 Frost's Forfeit: A Fae Paranormal Fantasy Romance - Are the books that I found good fantasy with sub-plot romance? Read 19 889 reviews from the world's largest community for readers. And Mistborn does have some romance in it but it takes until the second book to actually go anywhere. In a fantasy, the emphasis is going to be on some other problem. 65,156 ratings — published 2011, avg rating 4.05 — published 2019, avg rating 4.09 — 8,519 ratings — published 2012, avg rating 4.20 — published 2011, avg rating 4.40 — published 2009, avg rating 4.52 — published 2017, avg rating 4.20 — Broken Illusions is book two of the complete Ashryn Barker Trilogy, an action packed urban fantasy with a low heat whychoose romantic subplot. published 2015, avg rating 4.42 — 19,289 ratings — Whether you're planning the fabric of a new story or looking to thread depth into one that's falling flat, try these 7 methods to add great subplots to your novel for a tightly woven plot. 120,196 ratings — In light of that, here are 14 Non-Romance books with a romantic subplot. Usually the posts are supposed to be on Friday’s, but since I didn’t have time this week I thought that I would briefly talk about it here! 441,384 ratings — Can't say if the likes of Curse of Chalion is what you're looking for, but there it is. Science Fiction novels with romance: The Sirantha Jax series by … As long as you put a fresh twist on them, they can all inspire unique love story ideas. There's a little bit in Lightbringer, but again, though there are some discussions on it, it's more in book 4 that things really happen. The series follows a boy from his young teens to his early twenties, so you get to see the relationship shift from childhood attraction to love as the story wraps up. 32,333 ratings — 396,722 ratings — Warbreaker is supposed to get a few sequels and already sort of has one in one of Brandon Sanderson‘ as other books. published 2014, avg rating 4.37 — Romance as a Subplot This might be a controversial take (I have no idea, because I feel like romance gets a bad wrap sometimes? The liveship traders trilogy might fit your bill. 13,774 ratings — Just to note, Warbreaker is part of the wider universe of the Cosmere, and if you read the books enough, you'll find crossover characters. Don’t even look up why.). Paranormal romance may range from traditional category romances, such as those published by Harlequin Mills & Boon, with a paranormal setting to stories where the main emphasis is on a science fiction or fantasy-based plot with a romantic subplot included. Welcome back. If you choose so, read them in order of their appearance, but the liveship trilogy works as a stand alone. A strong, capable, defined main lead ( I dont care whether it's male or female or if there are POVs of supporting characters) 2. a "basic" fantasy book (magic, swords etc) 3. a romance subplot that isnt really a "small addition" but at the same time still holds "only" supporting role to the main story. If you could, please name the books on my list with bad endings. 742,029 ratings — The Riyria Revelations is a fairly classic 6 book series (now mostly published as 3 books), and certainly has a romance subplot by the end of the series, but I think it's something like half way through book 5 that it starts to kick in. Incidentally, I’m searching for the mythical unicorn right now. Mistborn is a bit more romantic in "Era 2" but there is some in Era 1. J.K. Rowling does this effectively by showing the complications school work throw into the ring as her characters’ struggle against evil in the Harry Potter books. Kushiel’s Dart - not sure if this is book for me, because I don't know if the romance is sub-plot or something more. 129,253 ratings — The damage here is threefold. published 2010, avg rating 4.58 — 11,576 ratings — (sorry if I wrote something wrong, english is not my first language), Kushiel's Dart is exactly what you're looking for.